Notes taken on Captain J.C. Kay's Inward Interview on Wednesday 1st April
"Anchises" anchored one mile north east of the Chang Chiang Kou light vessel at 0221 hours on Monday 23rd February in accordance with instructions received from agents. On receipt of further instructions from the Agents, "Anchises" heaved anchor and closed the pilot ship embarking the pilot at approximately 1015 hours on Thursday 26th February. The vessel then proceeded to the anchorage at Woosung arriving at 1245 hours. The inward inspection formalities were quickly and smoothly accomplished and indeed the ship was complimented on the orderliness of the papers. The ship was then informed that the berth was not available and the pilot disembarked.
Feb 27th. Another pilot boarded again at approximately 9 a.m. on 27th February end proceeded up river. The chart was in full view of the pilots and guards at all times when Captain Ray personally marked the position of the buoys leading up from the Light ship to the anchorage at Woosung and again from there to the berth in Shanghai Harbour. During the passage up the Whangpoo River Mr. Brunskill, Chief Officer, was on the bridge with the Master.
Captain Ray noted the time passing Woosung break water and subsequently marked in all eight positions of buoys on the passage up river until noon when he was off the wharf where they berthed starboard side to. Captain Kay did not use his own binoculars at any time and only used the bridge binoculars on one occasion to look at Holt's old Wharf. At no time did he pay any particular attention to any of the craft or other shipping in the river or installations along the river banks. Only when the vessel was securely tied up with the number one leading steward in the wheel house acting as interpreter did security guards enquire about the positions marked on the chart, they appeared to be satisfied end the charts were put away. After lunch four officials boarded ship and again questioned Captain Ray about his actions, subsequently taking away the three charts covering the approaches to Shanghai, the Mates Deck log Book and the Engine Room Movement Book.
Feb 28th. Next day Saturday February 28th a more senior official came on board and again questioned the Master. He appeared to understand the Master's explanation about the Company's navigational practices and took an extract of the relevant paragraph in the Company's Bridge Order Book.
March 1st. Next day, Sunday March 1st, four more officials boarded at about 9 a.m. told Captain Ray that he had been charged with violating the Harbour Regulations and that he was being taken ashore to make statements. Captain Ray was taken to a building which was the Headquarters of the Shanghai Frontier Defence Force behind the Peace Hotel and accommodated in Room 101. He was questioned all day apart from meal breaks and his questioning continued on Monday 2nd March until 10 pm. at night.
March 2nd. He was told that the indications were that he had been spying and would be detained until he confessed. He was said to be looking at military installations and the interrogator wanted Captain Ray to say that when he made a mark on the chart it was to indicate that he had seen something ashore. Captain Ray confirmed again that all the times that he had noted were those taken at the time when he passed buoys but again the authorities did not believe this and demanded a confession. They emphasised that leniency would be given to those who confessed. Captain Ray accordingly made a "confession" on Tuesday 3rd March to the effect that he had been collecting information and that he had noticed some development on a conspicuous green hill at the entrance to the river, new buildings in Woosung Creek and elsewhere and conspicuous chimneys of factories, etc.
During these interrogations there were 3 or 4 interviewers, one interpreter and two stenographers.
March 3rd. At 3 p.m. on Tuesday 3rd March a new more senior officer arrived and thereafter all the questioning was concerning the mouth of and passage up the Yangtze Kiang.
March 4th. For the rest of Tuesday, Wednesday 4th March and until the morning of Thursday 5th this interrogation continued.
At no time was Captain Ray permitted to see the charts and had to rely upon memory for his answers. At the end of the interrogation they appeared dissatisfied and indicated that they thought there was more to be revealed. At 1 p.m. Captain Ray's cabin key was taken away which was his first indication that the ship was still there. At 8 p.m. His room was invaded by some ten people including photographers and a very senior official who produced a document which was first read out in Chinese and subsequently translated to the effect that the Captain had admitted violating the laws of the Peoples Republic of China and was therefore being detained. The Captain then signed the document, photographs being taken of the signing, he was hand cuffed and the officials all departed except the interpreter who informed Captain Ray "You are a very silly man as the positions marked on the charts were positions of three or four points defending the Shanghai approaches". In the evening he was taken hand cuffed from Room 101 in the Defence Force Headquarters to the Shanghai House of Detention where he was put into "No. 1 Admission Cell". He thought this building might have been a converted monastery. All metal articles, his shoe laces, etc. were taken away. The accommodation was sparse, his bed consisting of 3 blankets on wooden boards. He was again interrogated on Friday and Saturday March 6th and 7th and at about noon on the latter he was moved to a small cell No.30 on the 3rd floor of the main building. At about 5 p.m. was given underwear, shirts and other clothing which had been taken off the ship.
March 8th. On Sunday 8th, he was left alone all day.
March 9th. On Monday 9th March he was again interrogated then left in solitary confinement for 6 days until Monday 16th.
March 16th. During this time he had no exercise and was given daily two small brown loaves a.m. and p.m. plus a half full rice bowl of cabbage and a little meat which often was purely pork fat. He complained about the food which improved as a result of his complaint.
For toilet purposes ho had an enamel basin which had been bought for him filled twice daily with water and there was also a rough toilet in the corner of the cell. On the 16th p.m. he was taken to an interview room, told that it was necessary that he should buy blankets and a quilt, that there was insufficient money left of his own personal money as this had been expended on purchasing a mug and utensils and that it had been necessary to take a draw from the Agency of approximately the equivalent of £100 which Captain Ray signed for under protest.
March 19th. He was left on his own until Thursday 19th when he was allowed out for some 10 minutes exercise in the afternoon. On Friday 20th March ho was sent for and interrogated again and was told to write a further confession. Later that same day he was given the quilt and two blankets which had been purchased for him. He complained about the quality for the very high price but was told he would have to sleep without bed clothes, if he did not wish to accept them as the authorities were withdrawing the 3 blankets issued on his admission.
March 21st. On Saturday 21st he was again interrogated and prepared another "confession” in greater detail. On Sunday 22nd the interpreter sat with Captain Ray for some three hours during which time he was helped with his "confession”. He virtually told Captain Kay in English what to say. Captain Hay re-wrote the draft until it was in an acceptable form.
23rd March. On Monday 23rd he was sent for in the evening and with an interpreter only present was asked to sign each page of his 'confession' in English and Chinese. All previous comments and records of his many interrogations were also produced both in Chinese and English which he read and signed making his thumb print on every page.
24th March. On Tuesday 24th early a.m. he was told to pack and was taken to the detention room where he re-packed his gear and was told to 'dress well. At this stage he was not told anything about the reasons for this but did as he was told. He was then taken to a larger room with a table cloth on a large table, flowers, etc. The photographers were present, interpreters and senior officer who spoke in Chinese for a few minutes and this was then translated into English. It was obviously a prepared statement which Captain Kay was asked to sign while photographers were still busy. The statement was to the effect that the Captain was being immediately expelled from China. He was taken to a car in the courtyard and escorted by Jeep to Shanghai station where he met up with Mr. Duff. He was taken on the train which departed at 0950 with some five people in the compartment comprising the two detainees, an interpreter and two guards. There was a more relaxed atmosphere and good European meals from then on but this might be accounted for by the fact that the detainees were paying for their own visas, transportation expenses, later hotel accommodation and all meals. The interpreter in the train mentioned Mr. Crouch who was said to be incorrigible and that immediate repentance on his part would have no effect; he did not say where Mr. Crouch was being held.
25th March. They arrived at Canton at 7 p.m. on Wednesday evening 25th and were accommodated at the Eastern Hotel where they shaved and bathed.
26th March. At 7.15 on Thursday 26th they left to hotel joined the train at 8 am. arriving at the border station at 1005. There were other Europeans in the fore-end of the carriage which was at the rear of train and they were accommodated in the after-end. At this point Captain Ray and Mr. Duff were split because of Captain Ray's expulsion and Mr. Duff was dealt with quickly through Customs. Captain Ray was delayed for some 45 minutes possibly due to the arrival of another train from Kowloon with passengers entering China. He then walked through the station to the Border bridg e, given a final lecture and was told to go. His final indignity was when required to push a baggage trolley some 100 yards over the bridge.
In his various confessions he had mentioned many people within the organization but none of the Sea Staff. When asked who had told him to keep his eyes open whilst in China, he could not think of anyone else who was in the R.N.R. but J.E.Felice. When pressed to give the name of a naval person who had asked him to give information he felt he had to produce the name of an actual person. He naturally did not want to mention a seafarer in the R.N.R. and could only think of Mr. J.E.Felice, the Manager of Ocean Fleets' Marine Personnel Department, who is an R.N.R. officer. Needless to say neither Mr. Felice nor anybody had asked Captain Ray to collect information, nor had he consciously collected any despite what he was forced to say in his 'confession'.